What Is The Tiered Pricing For Orion Advisor Services

Orion CEO is insists no formal action is taking identify but majority stakeholder, TA Associates, declines to dorsum him up, Barron's isn't bankroll downwards and Orion admits its five-twelvemonth anniversary with TA marks a sell-by appointment.

Brooke's Note: Little effort was spared in writing this article -- a burden mostly carried past Oisin -- simply with me very much involved, too. The impetus of our attempt derives from how consequential Orion Advisor Solutions and the Clarke family are to the RIA business. Its being is surely significant to the 2,000-plus RIAs that choose to make information technology a central software partner. Orion's market ability and pro-RIA civilisation sets a tone for the industry and would make whatsoever of its three largest competitors -- all publicly-held -- recall twice near putting corporate interests ahead of clients. Just this story most Orion nearing a sale for a whopping five-twelvemonth return -- also tells a bigger story about an RIA business that lives on the tippy-top of the mom-and-pop spectrum and right on the doorstep of loftier-flying large business. This very 2020 dynamic brings stakeholders with overlapping just differing agendas into both concert and potential conflict. Orion wants to stay on its roll with RIAs. Its backer, TA Associates -- like all PE firms -- is a serial monogamist eyeing its adjacent conquest. Information technology seems Eric Clarke holds but enough cards -- as co-owner and leader -- that regardless of the precise truth of the Barron's article, Orion can stay in character as the nice company that doesn't stop last.

When Barron'due south published a report that TA Associates had put Orion Counselor Solutions on sale for $1.8 billion, it took the wealth management industry past surprise, including Orion CEO Eric Clarke.

Although Clarke calls the Jan. xvi written report "speculative," he also confirms that he hasn't asked the business journal to retract or clarify its coverage.

Pecker Singer: Frankly, it's pretty much a CEO talking his book when it comes to selling the firm.

The Omaha, Bill.-based executive and owner also doesn't dispute the possibility that TA's five-year private-disinterestedness biological clock is about to strike midnight.

Information technology is taken equally a affair of devout organized religion in the financial engineering world that no private-equity firm should exist asked to stretch its attention span much beyond five years -- a span that used to get routinely cited at seven years before the stride of change in the by half decade.

"TA is five years into this investment. Eventually they're going to want to sell," Clarke acknowledges.

The CEO besides says that he engages in conversations with potential buyers. But the dynamic is such that buyers are pursuing Orion, non vice-versa.

"We become telephone calls every day from some blazon of private disinterestedness firm ... just while we've entertained conversations, nosotros oasis't kicked off a formal procedure or had anything past cordial discussions."

Clarke used variations on the word "formalized" on eight occasions during the interview.

Such linguistic communication matters, and Clarke'south word-selection is telling, says Neb Singer, attorney and author of the Broke and Banker weblog, via email.

"We use 'formalized' ... to explicitly avert giving the impression that a terminal, scrivened deal or term-sail is in play ... [but] I suspect that a number of wise dealmakers are urging the visitor [TA] to sell while information technology all the same has a hot hand."

Killing it

What nobody doubts is just how hot a hand Clarke and TA concur with Orion's meteoric growth, its sterling reputation and its all but unparalleled positioning in the coveted RIA fiscal business.

Dan Seivert: [TA's] sticking to their knitting and focusing on their work.

The business firm recently surpassed $one trillion in administered avails -- up from $275 1000000 when TA bought in in 2015. It blew by its growth projections in both the tertiary and fourth quarters, Clarke says.

The house at present serves 2,000 firms and brings aboard 2 new firms daily -- a pace that Orion does non look to allay anytime soon.

A good example of Orion'south strength is the Carson Group's announcement this week that it will blot the cost of Orion software for all the advisors on its platform. Asked what savings this represents to those firms, Carson said about $26,000 in an annual license fee.

Important context for Orion'southward growth is that its two chief competitors for big RIAs --Tamarac and Black Diamond -- are besides growing at similar rates.

In fact, upmarket firms similar PCR and Addepar and on the adjacent tier, similar FinFolio and Morningstar, also claim to be pretty much killing it. RIAs are forming in droves, and they are as well converting in droves from desktop software like PortfolioCenter and Axys.

Business concern broker

Yet for all Clarke'due south explanations, Barron's described Orion  -- or at least TA's majority stake -- as being very much for sale under the most formal terms.

Jason Wenk: Getting a large render going forward will be difficult for an investor.

The Dow Jones weekly cites three separate sources, "familiar" with the matter, who corroborated a forthcoming sale and names Raymond James every bit advising.

The St. Petersburg, Fla.-based investment banker is very much the leading business broker for these kinds of sales.

That role was always strong but only strengthened later on ownership Silver Lane, Liz Nesvold'due south able Thousand&A shop for mezzanine deals in the RIA orbit. Encounter: Raymond James bids to be the Goldman Sachs of RIA One thousand&A through acquistion Argent Lane -- and it might just work

Financial Planning magazine likewise cites its own source confirming the upcoming sale of Orion, which only passed the $one trillion high-water marking for avails nether its administration.

When asked in the interview whether he asked TA if it had listed its stake for sale, he allowed that he contacted the house after the Barron's article was imminent but didn't directly ask about a contract.

 "I didn't ask them [is there any truth to it], considering I already knew that only wasn't the case," says Clarke. "I reached out to them last night and said, 'Hey, there's this rumor in that location may exist a Barron's article' ... and they said, 'Hey, these rumors are certainly flying around.'

"[But] nosotros're v years in, y'all know ... [and] at some point that [sale] will happen."

Mayhap auspiciously, Clarke said this about TA's investment in Orion in a 2015 RIABiz interview: "The TA offering was not the highest, but nosotros felt it was in our interest for where we want to exist in five years."

TA Assembly Managing Manager Roy Burns, i of three Orion board member's from the individual equity house, did non respond to a request for comment. Raymond James declined a request for comment, as did Informa, a possible heir-apparent for Orion, according to a source. Informa, a British house, owns WealthStack and WealthManagement.com.

The cadet stops with me...

Though Orion'southward fundamental merits is that the business firm is doing zippo formal to grease the skids of a sale, information technology concedes that a formal external valuation of the visitor was completed -- equally of 3 weeks ago.

Ari Sonneberg: 'Orion is ripe for a auction ... [TA] likely already has eyes on potential buyers.'

But Clarke assures that this act is a required annual ritual -- necessary for accurately pricing stock options for a number of its 695 employees.

Clarke'due south decision non to put TA on the spot almost retaining Raymond James to shop it around may, withal, exist a instance of him preferring not to know such details, says Ari Sonneberg, an attorney at the Boston-based Wagner Constabulary Grouping, as well equally its principal marketing officer, via email.

"Orion is ripe for a auction ... [TA] likely already has eyes on potential buyers  … [and] there'southward a possibility that Clarke hasn't been privy to TA's movements thus far on the sale front, so it'south only his perspective that a formal process hasn't commenced."

Clarke counters that his interests with his TA board members mesh and so tightly that the financiers won't accelerate a sale without his input.

"[I'thou] CEO of the business, [then] I feel similar I'd have a very practiced say in [whatsoever] transition, what those next steps would be and programme to be highly involved and engaged in that process ... [a sale] most likely, in my opinion, to another fiscal sponsor, [or] some other individual equity house."

Jostling for position

The problem with this assertion, however, is that Clarke is banking on good will, non legal reality, says Sonneberg.

"Assuming he doesn't have any contractual rights beyond uncomplicated shareholders' rights, he wouldn't have the power to block a sale," Sonneberg explains.

Roy Burns, an Orion board representative of TA Associates did not respond to a request for annotate.

"[But] from a applied point of view, TA, which does take the power to determine whether sell and to whom, must take into consideration the impact of leaving the CEO, who has steered Orion into the prominent and profitable position it now holds, out of the controlling process."

"I don't recall they'd exercise that unless they had very good reason," he adds.

Clarke says he wants to keep the visitor's civilization and momentum intact. Hence, he wants TA to sell to some other financial buyer with a low-cal touch.

What nosotros're seeing is two stakeholders publicly expressing their post-five-year postures toward owner composition and asset liquidation, so they can get leverage over one some other, says Vocaliser.

"Frankly, it'southward pretty much a CEO talking his book when it comes to selling the firm ... [and] a key aspect of [Orion's] perceived value may be its direction team. So when the CEO is inserting preconditions and demands into a bargain, it's a way of underscoring that the management squad desires to remain onboard -- or at least that'south the signal they want to send."

It definitely "sends a message to [Orion's] management team", agrees Sonneberg.

"[But is it] just lip service to proceed his team from being distracted with news of a looming sale to an entity that isn't individual equity? [And does] Eric, a minority shareholder, truly have any real insight equally to what volition happen, or any control over what will happen?"

TA doesn't accept to keep other shareholders in the loop, but some bonds go deeper than cash alone, counters Clarke.

"Eventually, I'd know. My ownership shares are the aforementioned as theirs … [but] I really don't recollect it would be the case [they'd sell without common consent] with the type of relationship nosotros have."

Focusing on the knitting

There's also an statement to be made that Barron's report evinces a behind-closed-doors TA sales campaign, says a source, speaking anonymously, in social club to be candid.

Ron Carson's house now absorbs the price of Orion software for all its advisors.

"I doubt the cost quoted, [but] sometimes private-disinterestedness firms can leak stuff to pressure or push a denial in [the] market place with management or a particular buyer."

Anyone who thinks there's some sort of cat-and-mouse subterfuge going on behind-closed doors is wrong, says Dan Seivert, CEO of Los Angeles, Calif.-based investment banking company and valuation services business firm, Echelon Partners, via email.

"This is in the category of gaming PR. Nigh private-equity firms don't need to do this, and the crusade and effect is not that precise anyway," he explains.

"[It's] more [TA] sticking to their knitting and focusing on their piece of work ... all these things are normal, and non a cover up."

Changed nature

Since 2015, Orion's persona has too notably shifted away from the more rootsy RIA-first, hackathon-infused era that the business firm remains synonymous with. That could have a bearing on how a sale pans out, says a 2nd source, again speaking off the record.

"[There's been] an unfortunate transformation in corporate attitude since TA coin started driving them," the source says.

Though Clarke might hope to come across TA eventually replaced by some other long-term partner, there'south no guarantee it will exist, Seivert told Financial Planning.

Seivert cites large software vendors, TAMPs and broader fiscal services firms every bit likely bidders, including Morningstar, Vestmark, SS&C and AssetMark.

In that event, it's unlikely Clarke would stick around, says the 2nd source.

Although such a sale would besmirch Orion'due south plucky ethos, it would ensure TA made a hefty return and kept its reputation equally a good investor and a safe pair of hands, the source continues. "[Still] the acquisition by SS&C would event in [Orion'southward] decease by profitability; by Informa [it's] expiry by etiolation."

Simply Clarke insists he's going nowhere, and that rumours of the demise of the FUSE-era ethos at his firm are greatly exaggerated.

"We're very much still the underdog ... [Orion] is a great business, information technology's a big deal, and I'g having way likewise much fun to practice anything else," he says.

A pregnant milestone?

Before Barron'due south published its report, the business journal contacted Clarke straight to ascertain the truth well-nigh a possible sale.

Clarke declined to comment, and Barron'south published its story.

RIABiz contacted both the Barron's reporter who broke the story, also as deputy managing editor, Lauren Rublin. Neither has responded to a request to comment whether they stand by the story.

In one case the story bankrupt, Clarke admits to an try to take control of the narrative. He promoted Orion's recent growth in a release that centers on its ascent to $1 trillion in administered assets.

PR moves however, the trillion dollar marking is a significant milestone.

Orion is inching e'er closer to surpassing Envestnet's own portfolio direction software business firm, Tamarac, in full administered assets. Orion has a two-to-ane atomic number 82 over Tamarac in clients. Tamarac administered $i.two trillion in assets every bit of Q3 2019.

All the same Clarke admits that once you become to such heady heights, growth isn't as piece of cake to come by -- a fact that makes One thousand&A attractive.

"When we serve two,000 firms, it'southward non always about going out and getting more than, as much every bit information technology is about helping [them] grow faster," he explains.

He adds that this is a fourth dimension of amped-up growth in he RIA world. The zeroing of commissions not only fattens RIA margins just fuels interest from brokers in becoming or joining RIAs so they, too, can offer zero commissions. See: Charles Schwab & Co. brings 'start-upward'-style disruption to the $20 trillion mutual fund industry by zeroing out free partial-share trade ticket charges

"[M&A] is something we're always looking at … CRM is a space that's of some involvement, [and] at that place are TAMP businesses out there that are sub-scale … [and] meridian of listen for us … [since] we have a TAMP that we can easily scale through additional acquisitions."

As of January. 17, Orion Counselor Solutions collectively manages over $17 billion through its TAMP, Orion Portfolio Solutions (the re-named FTJ Fundchoice) and its investment services arm, CLS Investments.

Sizeable millstone?

The downside for TA is the question of whether they've taken Orion as far as they can, and whether further investment will yield diminishing returns, says Jason Wenk, CEO of showtime-up digital custodian, Altruist, via electronic mail.

"I'd wait [Orion] to try to create future growth from the TAMP side of their business, perhaps by acquiring more smaller players … [only] getting a large return going forward will be difficult for an investor, especially if the current valuation [of Orion] actually is shut to $ii billion."

Whether the $2 billion marking is an accurate is also difficult to discern, adds Seivert. "[Orion's] financials are confidential ... [merely] firms with that enterprise value often have $400 million in revenues, and $150 million in EBITDA."

People dearest to speculate, merely TA doesn't just invest in a company clutching a treasure map where Ten marks the for auction spot, says Clarke.

"TA has never looked at the number and said, 'well, you know, we're gonna sell the business.'"

That said, if RIA growth is peaking, as many now speculate, so likewise is RIA spending power, and consequently the revenues of software vendors, which will encourage TA to sell, says Vocaliser.

"We're entering a stage where buyers are being prompted to act, which means that at that place will likely be a number of press releases about this and admonitions to the printing not to over-state or misstate a given evolution."

"[TA] may feel that it'due south a bang-up time to sell and ride the crest of the wave rather than get caught up in the crash on the beach."

Source: https://riabiz.com/a/2020/1/18/what-exactly-to-make-of-the-barrons-article-about-orion-being-listed-for-sale-by-raymond-james-for-18-billion-and-how-it-boils-down-to-when-not-if

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